I was browsing around for information for my last post when I came across a video that had this comment (the context was VFX’s accusation of pedophilia towards DPRJones – one commenter lamented that men who get along with kids are immediately suspicious in this over-paranoid society):
One of the reasons that I hate the feminist movement is because of this kind of demonisation of males. This manifests most abundantly in the statistics of how many male parents get custody of children. People in this society have been convinced that women must always be better than men with kids. Its a lie. Also, we in Britain have just been shocked a few months back at a primarily female child abuse ring. Some people think that female child abuse does not exist, that is also a lie.
Now, I know this is YouTube, but this comment was by the publisher of the video, not some random flamer. This person participates within the atheist YouTube community. So I felt it deserved some comment. I replied (within the limit of characters they allow):
Being sexist against men is anti-feminist. Being beneficially sexist towards women is anti-feminist. Outdated laws that unfairly “benefit” women over men are social holdovers from outdated thinking that raising children is a woman’s job and men aren’t attached to their children. Don’t blame an equality movement for cultural stereotypes. Don’t reduce an entire movement to the actions/beliefs of a few individuals.
Feminism isn’t about equality, it is about selfishness and shifting the power balance to women. If feminists truly cared about equality then they would identify better with the label ”humanist”.
”Being sexist against men is anti-feminist.” I think you need to do a little google search and find out what women who identify as feminists really think.
Keeping my patience, because honestly I don’t care what some moron on YouTube thinks, I replied:
I think you may have a misunderstanding of the historical context of feminism. I don’t deny that some people have extreme attitudes, but there are several sub-movements within feminism that range in ideals. Some of which are rooted in other complex social issues such as poverty, race, and geography. I’m sure many feminists are humanists, but we have to consider the social context of their movement. It seems that you have taken experiences or research of one subgroup and have extended that to describe all of feminism. That’s no more fair than the assumptions religious people make about atheists.
After that I received no response, but at this point I saw that further dialogue was pointless anyway. I thought perhaps my initial comment would at least instigate some thought, which is why I bothered, but I have no interest in trying to reason with a random person on the internet.
But seriously, what year is this?
While I agree with the original sentiment that it’s unfair to paint all men as potential pedophiles, I don’t see how that can be attributed to the feminist movement as opposed to, say, sensational media reporting. It also appalled me that someone in a progressive minority group (atheists) would hold these views towards another progressive group (feminists) — not surprised, mind you, but still appalled.